tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-71660005239253031392024-03-08T03:33:24.296-08:00Searching for JesseDeborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-42534616917915534852020-07-06T08:21:00.002-07:002020-07-06T08:40:51.634-07:00Statues ... learn from them or destroy them ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
I was just reading <a href="https://www.devonlive.com/news/history/tear-down-keep-them-devons-4291413?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&fbclid=IwAR2Iflhsmb48rOL74PUTFTAFZaJXM8f6fYu0aGgdoNXRViq98xaq73dQbm4" target="_blank">Todd Gray's article </a>on the destruction of statues and monuments that's been going on recently. It's happening everywhere and to be honest, I hate it. It's like seeing an old stately home being torn down and replaced by a modern condo. </div>
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In Victoria, BC they took down the statue of John A MacDonald because of his role in the poor treatment of the First Nations people of Canada. There's an article listing "<a href="https://www.freshdaily.ca/news/2020/06/racist-statues-in-canada/">15 racist statues in Canada that people want removed</a>". They should change that to ... that SOME people want removed (keep in mind that 9 of these statues are of John A MacDonald). I get it that there are statues of people that at some point in their lives did horrible things. Who of us has never done a horrible thing (though not necessarily to that degree)? Some of these people also did great things. John A MacDonald was Canada's first Prime Minister! That's something that should be respected, not destroyed. It's happening everywhere, in the UK, the States (no surprise there), Canada, and no doubt other places that I'm too lazy to look up right now. It breaks my heart to see history destroyed in any form, and it worries me that they'll escalate into destroying documents, books, buildings, and other things that represent things of our past, whether good or bad.</div>
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Capt Jesse Gray was a slaveowner. It's a fact. His family had a plantation and they had slaves. He brought a few of his to Nova Scotia, it's documented in many books. With him being my ancestry brick wall and the American Revolution and slavery records being my main source of information on him, these destroyers of historic things could very well end my whole search for his origins, thus my own. It's like they think they can erase every bad thing that happened just by destroying the evidence/proof that it happened. </div>
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The incorrigible President Trump (I cringe every time I even hear his name) said in one of his many, many tweets or speeches, that he was "changing history". He actually thinks he can change history LOL ... I guess he must have a time machine we don't know about, since that's literally the only way that can be done. </div>
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History happened. It doesn't have to be celebrated, but it should be documented, it should be learned about and from, and we should grow into better people by knowing not to do those horrible things in our own lifetimes because we have learned from it. If they don't want the statues out in the public because some people are offended by them, then put them in a museum or something, don't go vandalizing them, or bashing them to bits and tossing them into harbours. </div>
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I do realize that I'm one of those of "white privilege", which I also don't get because I don't feel privileged. I don't think I'm any better or worse than anyone else, I don't think I deserve any different treatment because of the colour of my skin any more than the colour of my blood, but maybe people think I don't understand it all as personally and deeply as others might. But white privilege or not, I'm not stupid, or unfeeling. I've done ancestry research for a good friend of mine who happens to be black, and it is nearly impossible to get beyond a certain point in her lineage because the records simply do not exist. That breaks my heart too. I watch shows like Roots, or others on slavery, or read the books or the historical records in the archives, and I sit there and literally cry over the treatment the people had to endure, and I'm grateful that I wasn't one of them and I feel deep sympathy for those that were. </div>
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It appalls me that things like what happened to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd" target="_blank">George Floyd</a> are happening in this day and age when we should know better. We should DO better. But doing better doesn't mean destroying what came before us. It doesn't change what happened 200+ years ago. It means working together towards a better future. Despite what Trump says, we can't change history. But we can learn from it.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-21300271405591145892019-09-26T13:23:00.005-07:002019-09-26T13:28:21.701-07:00Wistful ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
It's an interesting range of feelings that come over me when I'm documenting cemeteries. Some of them, like the one out in Brenton, are full of people that are so distantly related to me (like the grand-nephew of the husband of a 2nd cousin 4x removed) that until I photographed their stone I had no idea they'd even existed. For these unfamiliar ones I just go through the area respectfully cleaning them off for the best photo possible, straightening what I can, taking the picture and moving on to the next one. In a cemetery like that I can usually get through it pretty quickly, even more so if it's overrun by mosquitoes. It's a rare one, though, when I can get through an entire cemetery without encountering a familiar name, related to me or not.</div>
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Then there are the ones like Kemptville, Plymouth, Pleasant Lake ... I grew up in Plymouth, went to church in both Plymouth and Pleasant Lake, and much of my family came from Kemptville. Going through these spaces is an altogether different experience. In the cemeteries in Kemptville I recognize most of the names as ancestors, whether closely related or not, they are family. Some stones I feel closer to than others, even if they aren't direct ancestors like grandparents ... many are distant aunts, uncles, cousins, however many times removed. A Gray on a stone makes me smile, those are guaranteed to be my people. The smile isn't always a happy one, sometimes it's more of a sympathetic one ... like for Joseph Gray and his wife Caroline (Woods). They had 13 children altogether, almost half of which died in infancy, often just days after birth. I see these stones, the names, the dates, and I can't even imagine what they went through. I tend to spend a little more time just standing there, being present for them.</div>
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In Plymouth and Pleasant Lake although parts of the cemeteries are very old, they also hold people that I knew personally. I get the same feeling for the old stones as I do in the other places, but inevitably I end up looking down at a name that I grew up with. The parents or grandparents of someone I grew up with, my own grandparents, aunts and uncles, my mother. As with the unfamiliar ones I still clean up the stones, straighten what I can, pull the weeds from around them, tidy up the area if it's needed. But as I do this I'm filled with a rush of memories. </div>
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Thelma Sims was the "boss" of Sunday School, she led the singing (will anyone who was there ever forget the day she asked for requests and Stacy Newell wanted to sing "<i>Jesus watches my children while I go shopping</i>"? lol). Ruth Purdy played the organ in church. Jean "the bean" Scott played as well, and taught S.S. classes. Going sledding down the big hill next to Aunt Bernice's house, later Aunt Carrie & Uncle Merrill's house (next door to the cemetery). Uncle Merrill standing by the record player playing along on his fiddle as Aunt Carrie played piano. Skating on the various ponds throughout Plymouth, sometimes with a nice bonfire on the side for marshmallow roasting and warming up. Ralph Churchill driving the school bus. Grampie also drove it, #22 ... later taken over by Dad. The day little Andy Newell died. The list goes on .....</div>
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When I drive through Plymouth these days it's obvious that it's no longer the village I grew up in, the landscape of the area has completely changed in so many ways but it's also so much the same as it always was. I see the old homes and recall who lived where, who I'd see when we went Trick or Treating every year, it's like nothing has changed at all. And then I walk through the cemetery and see the stones of these people I grew up knowing and I'm filled with feelings of melancholy, wistfulness, sadness. I feel richer for having known them all, and a sense of loss for their absence. They say you can never go home again, and in this case it's literally true, as the homes I grew up in are no longer there at all. But when I do go home and walk through these places it takes me more than twice as long as anywhere else. These are my people. I knew them ... I know them. I take a little extra time at each one and just remember. I may not be able to go home again, but I can never forget where I came from.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-4309019014018656132019-08-31T14:47:00.000-07:002019-08-31T14:52:54.376-07:00Fact Checking Frustrations ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
I've had a fair number of emails and facebook messages from people who have also been on their own search for Capt Jesse Gray's roots over the years. Some have been very helpful, mainly in regards to more recent ancestors, like Capt Jesse's grandchildren or great-grands. This information is often provided via old family bibles, which is an excellent source. I love getting copies of these pages, mainly because they were usually written down as the events happened, so how much more accurate can you get? Headstones are often mis-named in spelling, or name order (mixing up first and middle names according to how they were used, rather than how they were actually named), and sometimes if a stone isn't placed immediately after a person has passed the dates are guesstimated and often off by a year or so, but the bible records can usually be counted on to be pretty accurate.</div>
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Then there are the people who have done their own family tree online and have read something somewhere on someone else's tree and copied it over to their own. This is great <b>IF</b> that information is correct, but unfortunately is often is not. Too many people still figure if it's on the internet it must be true. I have news for you people: THE INTERNET LIES. <br />
I fell for it too at one time, for about 3 minutes, then once I saw the unsubstantiated claims of "truth", lack of documentation, waaaayyyy too much guesswork, I pretty much stopped believing most of what I see online unless it's in an actual official document. And even then sometimes you have to take it with a grain of salt. Always try to remember that the information recorded online is only as accurate as the person who put it there.</div>
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There are two lines in particular that several people have decided are Capt Jesse's family. These trees do both have a Jesse Gray in them, and in theory if you're not really looking closely they could be plausible. I'm not going to say right out that it's impossible, because at this time I just can't prove it beyond a doubt. But I will say that both are <i>highly</i> unlikely. Like super sky-high unlikely. I do have my reasons, so I will elaborate. </div>
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One of them is the family tree of Henry Gray and Sarah Harding. We do have many Harding relatives sprinkled throughout the tree, so even there we could be related to her, but I haven't found a link there so far. This is probably the most common tree that people have brought to my attention, swearing up and down that this is IT. Nope, sorry people, I do not believe it is. <br />
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Henry Gray (1714-1773) and Sarah Harding/Hardin (1702- ) did have a son named Jesse. They lived in Virginia, which is one of the possible places Capt Jesse may have come from. Their son Jesse was born in 1738. Now here is why I don't believe he's my guy.<br />
Capt Jesse Gray died in Kemptville around 1843. I don't believe he was 105 when he died, that would have been extraordinary considering the rough life he led and it would have been documented somewhere as such. Plus his youngest child was born in 1815 .... I really don't think he was still making babies when he was 80, which is how old he would have been if he was born in 1738. Plus every family story and historical records of the American Revolution state that he had a brother named Samuel. Henry Gray did not have a son named Samuel.<br />
Now, it could be that one of Henry's sons was the father of Capt Jesse & Samuel Gray, but so far I haven't been able to find anything that indicates this. I haven't given up on that idea, but I'm pretty much convinced that Henry Gray and Sarah Harding are not the parents of my Capt Jesse Gray, so unless you have absolute definitive proof that they are, please stop insisting the ridiculous.<br />
If you look in my<a href="https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/68155300/family?cfpid=30175969901&selnode=1" target="_blank"> Patch of Gray </a>tree on Ancestry you will find them there, but not because of the Grays. Rather, my connection to them is through Henry Gray's nephew James Samuel Gray who married into the Mangum family. Yep, the same Mangums that married 3 of Capt Jesse's sons, or cousins of them, but the same gang nonetheless. So there is definitely a connection there, and to me it's too much of a coincidence to ignore, so I'm still looking for other ways Capt Jesse could fit in there, but I haven't found it yet, I just know it's not Henry.<br />
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There's one other family that many people have also tried to convince me are the roots to Capt Jesse. This would be the family of William Gray and Lydia Anderson. They, too, lived in Virginia. William's parents were John Gray (1690-1751) and Agnes Rose McGowan (1695-1759). William and Lydia have sons Jesse and Samuel. It's always been a story in my family that Jesse & Samuel were twins ... whether that was true or not, I don't know, but we do know they were brothers. So far, so good, right? Nope. This Jesse Gray was born in 1765, which is both logical and likely for my Capt Jesse. But this particular Jesse moved to Kentucky, where he was married twice and died in 1819. See what I mean when I say it pays to do your homework.<br />
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One thing I've learned over the past few years is how bloody common the name Jesse Gray was in the southern states in the mid to late 1700's. There are a LOT, like seriously a LOT of Jesse and Samuel Grays and it's really hard to distinguish them from each other unless you do a ton of serious digging and reading.<br />
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I do appreciate each and every piece of information anyone offers me that they've found in their own search, and I will do my utmost to try to prove or disprove whether it's valid or just another wandering trail to the wrong family. So please do keep messaging me and keep sending me whatever you have or think you have and we'll go from there.<br />
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For now, the search continues .......</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-69032393741100024632019-08-27T15:41:00.001-07:002019-08-27T16:01:24.069-07:00What it takes ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
Every year after a trip to NS I return home with many, many cemetery headstone pictures. By "many" I mean literally hundreds, often over 1,000. A lot of actual work goes into all of this, I often wonder if people realize exactly what's involved. I know I didn't when I first started this project. I figured hey, I'll just pop out to a few cemeteries, take a few pics of stones, no big deal. That first time turned into taking pictures of ALL the stones in 13 cemeteries. </div>
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Over time I figured out that the time of day needs to be taken into consideration when photographing certain cemeteries, certain stones. Some stone materials don't photograph well in bright sunlight, others aren't great in shadows. It's nearly impossible to go to any given cemetery and get perfectly fantastic shots of every single stone the first time out ... there are always some that have issues. I am getting better at narrowing my original photo to the stone and just the stone ... the less cropping I have to do later, the better. And I've learned to get a picture of the cemetery sign before I start doing the stones, even if I'm just popping in for updated shots or scouting for new stones. I used to think "Oh, I'll remember I did that stone at this cemetery". No, I won't. There are just too many to remember exactly where each one was. So a shot of the cemetery sign then the stones within it, another sign, more pictures, makes it so much easier to figure out what goes where. Live and learn. Once a cemetery is done, it's still not actually <b><i>done</i></b>. Every time I'm there I revisit all the ones I've previously done to check for updated or new stones. Plus some cemeteries could have done maintenance work to clean up old stones, which is a great opportunity to get a clearer picture.</div>
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The flour will be a must-have from now on. I'm going to have to experiment with darker concoctions to use on the unreadable light stones like Louisa Cook. I know her name, and where she lies, who she's among, whose plot she's in, so I can guess who she was, but without being able to read the actual stone info it's pretty much all guesswork. This one has been edited on the computer to try to better define what's etched on it, but it's still not very legible. She's a mystery to me, that Louisa, but I'll figure her out in time.<br />
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I keep a copy of all my cemetery pics on my home pc and on a memory stick so I have them with me no matter where I am. That way I can use them when I'm away in NS, or at the library, or wherever. Plus, a backup is always good to have just in case. Once the photos are all uploaded from the camera and my phone they have to be cropped and sometimes fiddled around with to make them brighter or more easy to read, then renamed from the image number to the actual names on each stone. Yep, every. single. one. Each is saved in a folder named for that particular cemetery. I have done about 28 cemeteries now, some aren't yet finished being cropped and renamed from my latest visit.<br />
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I maintain a few different trees on Ancestry, but my main one is <i>A Patch of Gray</i>, my original tree in my Search for Capt Jesse Gray. It quickly spread out to tens of thousands of entries, demonstrating to me how we really are all related, so I decided to make the <i>Yarmouth County, NS</i> tree. So now I try to use <i>A Patch of Gray</i> for stuff more closely related to me, and everyone else goes in the Yarmouth County one. Once the stone photos are all renamed and ready to use I head to Findagrave.com. Some cemeteries are already started or done or partially done on there, some I've done completely myself.<br />
Findagrave is great if all you're doing is looking for someone that has already been documented. You find your person, and if it's done well it's got the photo of the stone, maybe even a photo of the person, with links to their parents, spouse, children, etc. Getting all that information in there is a mammoth task. Here's where my multi-screen computer system at home comes in super handy. I have 3 screens and I use them all, with a couple of Findagrave windows open, plus Ancestry, census, NS Vital Statistics, and other cemetery registries. With one stone entry on Findagrave I have to enter the person's full name, date and place of birth and death, then add the photo, then edit the entry to add parents and spouses. If it's a relatively recent death (like within the last 10 years) I also look online to see if there's an obituary. This helps out a lot in figuring out relations, often there's a photo of the person, and I also copy the obituary to the Findagrave page. There's no quick and easy drag/drop way to do this, it all has to be done manually and it's SO incredibly time-consuming, but I get such a sense of satisfaction when I finish up a family and can compare it to Ancestry and see that everyone is there and linked up properly.<br />
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When I'm doing a tree that has already been entered or started by someone else I tend to get a <i>bit </i>annoyed because it's rare that they've been as thorough as they could/should be. Often the page is just the name and year of birth and death. No exact dates (that's why I keep the NS vital stats open, so I can find these nitty gritty details) or places, and rarely are they connected to the rest of their family. I appreciate the effort, but like I always say, any job worth doing is worth doing well. I hate to see someone half-ass it, then take credit for the "wonderful" job they did after I've had to go in and do all the actual work. It's kind of like those people that take a picture with a bazillion filters to make it pop and sparkle, then post it for all to see and people oooh and aaah like they're some kind of fantastic photographer. Sorry people, give the credit to photoshop.<br />
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As each photo is entered on Findagrave I also add them to the correlating profile on Ancestry. My trees are public, so anyone can see them and have the photos ... that's why I'm doing it, after all. Why take all these pictures of other peoples' family stones if I'm not going to share with them? <br />
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Now after doing this for a few years I have cemetery gear that goes with me to every one. This includes my actual camera (with 2 32gig memory cards), a notebook, a tablet (paper, not computer, though my other tablet may be added in the future), pens and pencils, a good stick (for scraping off lichen - sorry Dad, but I need to read the stones), a small bag of flour (next trip there'll also be something for the light stones), a rag to wipe off dirt or excess flour, moist wipes, and rubber boots. I made a bag to carry all my stuff in (it's reversible, pockets inside and out) but I may have to make a bigger bag ... my gear just keeps increasing as I discover new obstacles in my photo-taking. <br />
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It may sound like I'm complaining about all the work it takes to do all of this, but believe me when I say I'm not at all ... I truly love it. I love the cemeteries, the older the better. I love walking among the stones and feeling the history that surrounds them. I love the feeling of a job well done when I've got everyone all linked up and documented. And it's not something that I have to worry about what I'll do when it's done, because it'll literally never be really done. I'm not looking for thanks or praise for the work either, though it is very labour intensive, I'm happy to do it and love it when I see a message on ancestry that someone has benefited from it, especially people that live far away and want to know about their people. And I love a good mystery ... like my friend Louisa Cook mentioned above. If you have a brick wall, or someone you can't figure out and they're buried in Yarmouth County, I will do whatever I can to help figure it out.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-81891657744198542482019-07-26T14:31:00.001-07:002019-08-13T14:06:57.521-07:00Hard to leave ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
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Of course I had to spend some time in the Tusket Lakes Cemetery, which continues to be my favourite. Not because it's full of Grays, because it isn't, there are only 2 Gray girls there ... one married an Andrews, the other a Hurlburt. But the residents of this particular cemetery are among the oldest in the area, so to me it resonates as something special. Plus it's so secluded and quiet, with the stone wall and trees all around, I do love it there. When my time comes I figure I'd like to be buried either there or in the Plymouth Cemetery. My sister and I came up with a "plan" for all that, for a chuckle you can read the <a href="https://searchingforjesse.blogspot.com/p/the-tale-of-ancestral-eye.html" target="_blank">Tale of the Ancestral Eye</a>.</div>
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTZLL6UeXVPOU47rO29WthLOH471EDnW8nVv7-PBCcwr2NgDMXFfHsNA2d3AFfIZuePNlYT-iVWFd8xic-OcPGAWqS5t9sb-clZIBxABwUXATilvW4e1prSQntBNtjrL_akPm6xedC_T4/s1600/Hatfield%252C+Sarah.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1219" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTZLL6UeXVPOU47rO29WthLOH471EDnW8nVv7-PBCcwr2NgDMXFfHsNA2d3AFfIZuePNlYT-iVWFd8xic-OcPGAWqS5t9sb-clZIBxABwUXATilvW4e1prSQntBNtjrL_akPm6xedC_T4/s200/Hatfield%252C+Sarah.jpg" width="151" /></a>Then she told me about a neat trick she'd seen on a video online to help read old dilapidated gravestones. All headstones are not created equal. There are some that are so old yet stand the test of time so well that they are still easily read hundreds of years later. Take this one of Sarah Crocker Hatfield ... it's 182 years old yet still in great shape, well made and clear to read. I don't know anything about stone itself, but just from my experience and wanderings in many cemeteries it's obvious that is is one tough cookie when it comes to longevity. </div>
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgJyv8sfe_9all5AVC8Rwe-z71a_ECbrP07Q2hIQNAcCzoJlLVcfsAAVG_VnmuBEiiBAzkv6Mz67SbO0xLWGb7_8WwiL-Cz7nJ_hDCwG-VBJj8JPyZTVLn4TBPdPVEjsSmlU1_4ljLIuo/s1600/good+stone.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1200" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgJyv8sfe_9all5AVC8Rwe-z71a_ECbrP07Q2hIQNAcCzoJlLVcfsAAVG_VnmuBEiiBAzkv6Mz67SbO0xLWGb7_8WwiL-Cz7nJ_hDCwG-VBJj8JPyZTVLn4TBPdPVEjsSmlU1_4ljLIuo/s200/good+stone.JPG" width="150" /></a>Then we get the ones that don't hold up so well, and they aren't even this old. This one on the left is a great example. It happens to be in the Arcadia Cemetery, but I find them everywhere. It's another type of stone (to my eye anyhow), and it does not hold up well over time. To the left is how it just normally looks now. Then I watched the video she sent me and tried the method they used and voila - AMAZING! As I travel around from cemetery to cemetery to the Archives, all over the county, I take a few things with me everywhere: camera, notebook, pens, scrap paper, a stick, a rag, and now included in my little bag of tricks: flour. Yep, regular all-purpose flour. You just wipe it on the stone and it fills in all the engravings and suddenly you can read it all. It took some practice, especially on a windy day which, let's face it, is almost every day in Nova Scotia. But I quickly learned that if I cup a bit of flour in my hand, start at the top of the stone and work my way down, gradually smooshing (yes, that's a word ... or it should be) the flour into the crevices as I go, then I wipe off the excess with my rag and take a perfectly legible picture of the stone. Of course it doesn't work on very white stones, but I'll work on a remedy for that. I tried adding some coffee grounds to whole wheat flour and using that on a white stone, and it helped a bit but not really. But being able to at least finally read these ones with the white flour is an awesome thing. No more incorrect dates or wrong names because I had to guess at what it might say, and the best part is -- it's only flour! It blows off into the wind or washes off in the next rain with no damage done to the stone at all. My little cemetery bag is gradually getting full with all the new supplies I'm dragging around, I may have to make a new bag before I go next time. </div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-18326191103962297082019-02-22T13:10:00.001-08:002019-02-22T13:12:10.593-08:00Branching out ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
Along this journey of tracing back my family tree and taking photos of all the cemeteries I've visited, I'm noticing more and more how the whole "6 degrees of separation" is really true, and not only in regards of friends. The theory states that "<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd"><i>Six degrees of separation is the idea that all people are six or fewer social connections away from <b>each other</b> so that a chain of "a friend of a friend" statements can be made to connect any two people in a maximum of six steps</i>." </span><br />
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">Where I grew up everyone always joked about how we were all related. I don't think many of them really realized how very true that is. Maybe not first or even second cousins, but as I go back in time I'm finding more and more links between families that I had no idea were even remotely related. </span></div>
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">I guess it's inevitable in a small community, even one that has grown into a small to medium sized town and the county that surrounds it. We have an interloper here and there that I'll come across a stone for and kind of scratch my head as I think "where the heck did this guy come from, he's not one of ours!" But for the most part, at some point, any family that has been in the area for a few generations is no doubt in some way related to the others that have been there just as long or longer.</span></div>
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">As my own <a href="https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/68155300/family?cfpid=30175963737&selnode=1" target="_blank">Patch of Gray</a> tree on Ancestry grows and branches out, I often find myself spending a whole day just filling in names, dates, spouses, children of a husband of a 2nd cousin 7 times removed. I don't mind that they're not more closely related to me, I don't feel like I'm wasting my time in discovering their families and filling in their information, doing a little extra digging to find out some hidden truths, but yesterday it did give me pause and I made a decision.</span></div>
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">Rather than just fill this information in on my own tree, which is fine and helpful for all, I decided to create a tree and name it <a href="https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/158905365/family?cfpid=172082316370" target="_blank"><b>Yarmouth County, NS</b></a>, since it is growing far beyond my immediate family. I get a lot of my information from books such as <a href="https://books.google.ca/books?id=KsYOAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=campbell+history+of+yarmouth&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiV9YnF9fXVAhUR72MKHRyKCdkQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=campbell%20history%20of%20yarmouth&f=false" target="_blank"><i>Yarmouth, Nova Scotia: A Sequel to Campbell's History,</i></a> plus various other historical texts, both online or in the library, and I do get some info from other people's trees or findagrave.com. The last two I have to be careful, as I'd encourage anyone else doing family research, as some (too many) take what they see on other trees as gospel and just copy it over to theirs, then someone else does the same and so on and so on until nobody is sure at all where the information even originated or if it's correct. And too often it is not. </span></div>
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">I'm not giving up on Jesse ... he's elusive but I know he can be found, I find new lines of research all the time, but after a while it gets so frustrating that all I want to do is fill in names and dates of sure things. </span></div>
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<span class="ILfuVd c3biWd">I encourage anyone who views or uses the information they find on my Yarmouth County, NS tree to please let me know if you find any errors or have any additional information or photos that could be incorporated on the profiles. I'm always open to suggestions and would like to be sure that the information I use is as accurate as possible. Please - check it out!</span></div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-16842121699094300652018-10-01T13:53:00.000-07:002018-10-01T14:02:08.864-07:00More stones, more stories, more mysteries ...<div style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; text-align: justify;">
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I
just returned from another trip to Nova Scotia, where I got to spend 2
more weeks visiting the cemeteries, taking pictures, poking around
through the archives at the Tusket Courthouse, and of course visiting
family. This time I had my dad's company for most of my cemeterying,
which was great in a bunch of ways. </div>
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There
were a couple of cemeteries that I had done already but the light
wasn't good or I missed a few stones so I went back to re-do them. Then
there was one I'd heard about through <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile" target="_blank">findagrave</a>
that I hadn't even seen because I hadn't gone all the way through a
back road, just went in one end and back out the same way. Note to
self: don't do that.</div>
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0tYmM2LlngZRUR7sDWYkMyNI9YJmTa-NEjYdHvYSUMPk9K3y5bepx7DrD_oD1yxgSKFFPHx4onbD44kJGy8-dwb_HVUBgSQQ9m9X_i-nDEbi6DZCkY-TJdxATosqY4uyvfsRGqW9Htg/s1600/Visiting+Capt+Jesse.JPG" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1200" data-original-width="1600" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0tYmM2LlngZRUR7sDWYkMyNI9YJmTa-NEjYdHvYSUMPk9K3y5bepx7DrD_oD1yxgSKFFPHx4onbD44kJGy8-dwb_HVUBgSQQ9m9X_i-nDEbi6DZCkY-TJdxATosqY4uyvfsRGqW9Htg/s320/Visiting+Capt+Jesse.JPG" width="320" /></a></div>
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It
was good for Dad to get out to these places that he hadn't been to in
years, or maybe ever, like Capt Jesse's house. We peeked in the window
like Tracy and I had a year or so ago, it's in worse shape than it was
even then. Since the chimney was taken down and they didn't bother
patching the hole in the roof where it had been, it's been a victim to
the elements ever since. Thus the floors are all rotted and sloped,
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As
we visited the various cemeteries (I think we saw 7 over a 2 day
period) he saw the names of people he'd heard stories about over the
years ... seeing these old familiar names jogged his memory about all
sorts of things. Then every now and then we'd see a Gray stone with a
name he was totally unfamiliar with, so that was my turn to tell him
what I knew. </div>
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also went out to the Old Burying Ground in Plymouth. This is where the
stone for Abner Barrows has been found and now lays in the yard of the
current owners of the property. When I was a kid, old Mrs Bradley
lived there and denied that there was a cemetery on her property,
regardless of the fact that Dad clearly remembered cutting through there
(before her house was built) on his way to school and jumping over the
gravestones. He knows for a fact that his great-grandfather Benjamin
Gray (1820-1890) and great-grandmother Judith Hayes (1822-1914) were
buried there. He knows this because a. he saw them there, and b. he saw
the notes about them in the cemetery log books when he was the Plymouth
Cemetery caretaker. Back when they started using the current Plymouth
Cemetery, Benjamin had been given a plot for himself and his wife but he
had given it to his son, Edgar, stating that he would be buried in the
Old Burying Ground as he had originally intended. Dad and I went poking
around (I had warned him ahead of time to bring boots, it's a good
thing we did!) in the trees, alders, pickerbushes, and swampy brush down
the hill from the house where he remembers the stones being, but all we
found were a bunch of broken trees, sinky swampy ground, and garbage.
He figures the actual cemetery was likely covered over by landfill when
they built the Bradley house years ago. Likely the excavators at the
time figured it was so old nobody would remember or care and just plowed
right over it and now the stones and plots are under 20 ft of soil.
Sorry guys, somebody does remember, and we're not impressed. </div>
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That
was a little adventure for us, one of a couple (like driving way out on
a dead-end dirt road that was being worked on looking for a cemetery
that wasn't there - OMG my car was so dirty after that! LOL ). I ended
up getting new photos of some I needed redone, plus 2 cemeteries I
hadn't done at all before, in all I took over 800 pictures. Now I get
to edit them, rename them according to who they belong to, assign them
to their profile in my tree on Ancestry, then build the cemetery in
findagrave. Sounds like a lot of work? You bet your boots it is, but
it's work that I love doing. I learn so much from every stone I do.</div>
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I
usually spend a couple of half days at the Tusket Archives in the old
courthouse, which of course I did. I was slightly more prepared this
time, I had made a list of all the files I wanted to take a look at,
which I'm sure made their job that much easier than me just walking in
and asking for "Gray info". I talked to Cody and Judy (Judy works
there, I think Cody is a volunteer) and they were very helpful. Near
the end of my visit my sister, who homeschools her kids, wanted to do a
little history field trip with me so I took them out to my favourite old
cemetery, Tusket Lakes. I took them around to all the stones there,
explained who these people were, how they relate to us, everything I
could remember about each of them. There are a few new stones in there
from more recent years that have nothing to do with our family, but
besides them we are related to everyone else in there, just as we are
with every other cemetery in the area. There are only 2 actual Grays in
that cemetery, but I just love that it's probably the oldest one in the
area, it's right off the main road but sheltered by trees so it's quiet
and private-ish, I just love it there.</div>
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Then we went over to the <a href="http://www.argylecourthouse.com/" target="_blank">Argyle Township Court House and Archives. </a> They
wanted to do the tour of the old courhouse and gaol, so I went over to
the Archives to continue working on what I had left out from the day
before. Peter Crowell, one of the main archivists there, had been
conducting their tour over at the gaol. When the tour was finished he
came over to see me in the Archives. Apparently he'd heard from Judy
that I'd been there already that week and wanted to talk to me in
person, since we'd never met but have so much in common, including a
direct link to Capt Jesse. It was great talking to him, we both had so
much to say and bounced information and ideas off each other until it
was time for me to go. He showed me some binders of photos he'd been
given of Grays in Kempt, plus all the houses in Plymouth from years gone
by, so I returned the next day to go through all of those and get some
copies for myself. I could talk to him all day, he knows so much and is
as interested in it all as much as I am. </div>
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Peter
had an interesting theory about Capt Jesse that I had actually been
considering myself just a week earlier. Jesse's wife, Sarah Moulton,
died in 1817, just 2 years after their youngest child was born. At that
time they were still living at Morris Island. Shortly after that he
got his land in Kempt and moved out there. After that we know he was
off doing slave trading and whatever else it was he did with his brother
Samuel, back and forth to and from Nova Scotia to the lower States. So
all that time, who was taking care of his many young children? I had
considered that likely it was one or more slaves, and there were a few
on his property at that time. But Peter told me something I hadn't
known. He had heard from someone he considered a reliable source that
the Sarah buried with Capt Jesse in Schoolhouse Cove was not Sarah
Moulton ... that after she died Jesse had remarried another Sarah and it
is she who is buried with him. This makes complete sense to me, since
when Sarah Moulton died they weren't even living in Kempt yet, so she
likely is buried at Morris Island, probably on the property they were
living/squatting on at the time. So if he married another Sarah, who
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Anyone listening in on us
would have thought we were crazy with all the different ideas and things
we were tossing around, but to Peter and I things were starting to make
some sense. He also mentioned the "Mr Mood" that is mentioned in
various texts as being buried in Schoolhouse Cove with Capt Jesse and
his wife Sarah. He didn't have time to really elaborate on that, as my
ride was ready to go and it was near closing time for them, but it did
get me thinking. </div>
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Jacob
Mood, the "Mr Mood" mentioned, was married to Sarah Eldridge. He died
in 1824, leaving her a widow, just a few years after Sarah Moulton had
died. I'm wondering if maybe Sarah Eldridge could have been the 2nd
Sarah that Jesse later married. Sarah was a very common name, so it
could have been any number of women, but this one in particular is one
I'm working on now ... particularly since 2 of Jacob & Sarah's girls
married 2 of Jesse's boys. And if Jacob was buried at Schoolhouse cove
it would make sense that his wife be buried there too, along with her
new husband. I've been out there, a couple of years ago, and it's a
shame that there are no stones or markers remaining. If only I had
unlimited funds and could get out there with ground penetrating radar to
see what's really there. While we're at it we could take the radar out
to Plymouth and find Benjamin and Judith....</div>
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All
in all it was a great trip, though way too short. There were a few
friends I had hoped to see but just didn't have the time, a few more
cemeteries I'd have liked to photograph. I love getting out there in
the country and being surrounded by my history, my family, even though
most of them are all gone now. Some day I will get back and stay.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-8386386794988611902018-03-27T15:11:00.002-07:002018-03-27T15:11:31.266-07:00Frustration ...I have a few guidelines that I've set for myself while researching:<br />
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<li>try to be thorough</li>
<li>try to be accurate, or as much as possible</li>
<li>try not to speculate any more than I have to. </li>
<li>think rationally</li>
<li>don't jump to conclusions</li>
<li>consider all the possibilities </li>
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I like to know the reason for certain things ... like how do I KNOW this person married that person, how do I KNOW they had this many children and lived here, where did I get this date from, etc. If I don't know the exact date or location of something I'll put what I do know and where I got it from rather than guess. If I'm reasonably sure of something but not 100% I'll sometimes put a ? indicating that I could be wrong.</div>
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It annoys me to no end that so many other people do not do any of these things. I'll go on Ancestry to cross-reference some things from other people's trees and end up so annoyed and frustrated at their stupidity, it drives me crazy. Just today I saw a tree that had a John Gray married to 3 different women at the same time, kids from all of them with dates all over the place, resulting in over 50 children altogether (35 from one wife!), right up until the day he died. Now seriously people, how likely is that? I know they tended to have large families, but that's a bit ridiculous. </div>
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I know I'm not perfect, but I do try to be reasonable. I just wish other people would do the same. It would make researching so much more pleasant for everyone.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-6366248171553508972017-08-25T18:00:00.001-07:002019-04-12T14:17:32.317-07:00Conflicting opinions ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
Since I started my quest for Jesse I have been discovering all sorts of distant relatives that I had never known existed. I've had emails from people who have seen the blog, the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/searchingforjesse/" target="_blank">facebook page</a>, or my <a href="https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/68155300/family?cfpid=30175963737" target="_blank">tree on Ancestry</a>, each with their own stories on their search or questions on things I have recorded, all sorts of great information. </div>
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Most recently I got in touch with another distant cousin, Dale, who has been researching our Capt Jesse much longer than I have, with many interesting theories of his own. He's of the school of thought that our Jesse is the son of William Gray and Lydia Anderson, William being the son of John Gray and Agnes McGowan, immigrants from Ireland. On the surface it looks like a tidy package, since William did have a son Jesse with a brother Samuel, they lived in North Carolina, they were in the American Revolution .... but I'm not entirely convinced. Not convinced at all really, for a number of reasons.</div>
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First off, our Capt Jesse joined the Fairforest militia in the Ninety-six District Regiment in <b>South</b> Carolina. All of the military information that is available online about the Jesse in that regiment state that he was from South Carolina. Sure, he could have moved to SC just before joining up, but wouldn't something mention North Carolina somewhere? Nothing does. He went to St Augustine, Florida when South Carolina was evacuated in 1782. He bought Mary Postell in South Carolina, and when he evacuated South Carolina his household list included himself and 2 slaves, Postell and her husband William Wearing, also from South Carolina. All of the court documentation in Shelburne, NS regarding Jesse and Postell state he was from South Carolina. </div>
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I've often considered this line of Grays myself in my research, because it does make a tidy storyline, but every time I go back to it I come away feeling less convinced than ever. I've actually named the tree I use to store this information "Not my Grays". Here are a few more reasons ...</div>
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Probably the most convincing piece of information I have though, is DNA. My dad is what he likes to call "pure Gray" (I often think he's pure something, not necessarily Gray, but that's beside the point) because he is a direct descendant from Capt Jesse through both of his parents. His mom, Helen Geneva Gray, descends from Capt Jesse's son Samuel, and his dad, Keith Albert Gray, descends from Capt Jesse's son Jesse. There are a few others who are "pure Gray" for similar reasons, but not many. Needless to say, his blood/DNA is about as straight a line as possible to Capt Jesse Gray. Dad got the results of his Ancestry DNA and it shows that he's 86% Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland, and Wales. 7% is Scandinavian, 2% Ireland, and the last 5% is spread out across Europe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd think that if Jesse was of Irish descent as Cousin Dale believes, we'd have more than a mere 2% Irish blood. </div>
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So anyhow, everyone has their own reasons for what they believe is the truth about where Capt Jesse came from ... this is just my reasoning for where I believe he did NOT come from. It doesn't mean I'm necessarily right, but to my mind this line is a dead end. </div>
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The search continues .......Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-71392650527930770552016-12-31T13:18:00.003-08:002019-04-12T14:23:12.436-07:00New information inDEED ....<div style="text-align: justify;">
This past summer/fall I started corresponding via email with a Gray cousin, Todd, that my Uncle Gary had told me about. After a bit of back and forth emails it turns out that we are 3rd cousins. I sent him some documents I have on Capt Jesse, like the will, pictures, etc, and he sent me this page, which at first appeared to be a deed to some land in Florida with Capt Jesse's signature on it. It turned out that it was actually a petition Capt Jesse was making in an attempt to get compensation for the house and horse he'd had to abandon when he left Florida to move to Nova Scotia. Compensation for this was not granted because he couldn't provide the necessary receipts, deeds, or other required proof of ownership.</div>
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I'm still plugging away at documenting all of the cemeteries that I photographed in May, though it's slow work. So far I've finished Plymouth, and started Kempt Corner and the Hatfield Cemetery on the Gray Road, also in Kemptville. As with anything else historical, there are some people who have also been working on documenting them and have not done their research, thereby linking up names that have no business being linked up, or inserting speculative or false information. That really annoys me. It's frustrating enough to not be able to find something or hit a roadblock in researching, but it's worse still when people go tumbling along all willy-nilly, making assumptions or just plain making things up. This is partly why it's taking me so long to get my own documentation done. For each entry I put on FindaGrave.com I am checking and double checking the information in my own family tree (for those that I am related to, which are a LOT), plus I go into the NS Historical Vital Statistics site and check information there, like parentage, dates, etc. It's a long, slow process, but I believe that anything worth doing is worth doing well.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-30842835471101812632016-09-03T01:30:00.001-07:002016-09-03T01:42:33.680-07:00Well, Hello there old friend .....<div style="text-align: justify;">
In May I flew across Canada and spent 2½ weeks in Nova Scotia. It had been a few years since I'd been back so it was nice visiting with friends and family, catching up, exchanging stories.... but I have to admit I was most looking forward to spending some serious time in cemeteries all across Yarmouth County, and that's exactly what I did. I had gone with the intent of taking headstone pictures in a <i>couple</i> of cemeteries. I ended up taking almost 2000 pictures in 13 cemeteries! It was awesome!</div>
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It had been many years since I'd been out to Kemptville and I wasn't sure I even knew the way anymore, but thankfully I have a great friend who was kind enough to be my guide. It was raining the entire day we spent out there, he really was a good sport to hang in there and show me the area. A few days later I went out on my own and got a few more pictures, then my sister, Tracy, and I went back for more. </div>
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I had been in touch with Justin, a distant Gray cousin who had said that he lived in an original Gray house, plus his land led to the spot called "School House Cove" where Capt Jesse is supposed to have been buried. When Tracy and I were out there we stopped in to see Justin and check out the old site. He took us for about a 10 minute walk down an old tractor road behind his house, then off into the woods to the spot where the old meeting house is said to have been. There was still a semi-cleared area where we could see large flat now mossy stones that were likely used for the foundation. Justin had grown up being told that the burial ground was off to one side of the area, but unfortunately no markers remain. </div>
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Capt Jesse's house used to be down there on the shore of School House Cove, but had later been moved further inland, away from the immediate shore. Then in later years it was moved yet again to where it currently stands near the Hatfield Cemetery on the Gray Road. Nobody currently lives there, and I wouldn't take the chance of walking around inside, after over 200 years I'm sure the floors could use a bit of work! I'm just impressed and pleased as punch that it still stands and that I was able to find it (again, thanks to Justin for great directions). We did get up near the house and take a picture through the side window ... it's a <i>bit</i> of a mess inside, but still very cool to get a peek into what used to be my 4th great grandfather's home in the early 1800's.</div>
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other things sorted out. I'd been hoping to find Jesse jr's wives, but
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that I have seen so many times, it felt like finding an old friend.
You can walk through a cemetery full of people you don't know and all
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them. They were people who lived where I lived, and a part of them
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I get that back in the good ole days it was harder to get around from one community to another, and the population wasn't as dense as it is now, people tended to marry their neighbors and, as it turns out, often their cousins. As I've mentioned before I'm finding as I move through Capt Jesse's children, grandchildren, and further down the line that a few surnames tend to repeat themselves along the way. Some are quite prevalent, like Hemeon, Hamilton, and Hurlburt. Oh. My. God. The Hurlburts alone are mind boggling. There are so bloody MANY of them, and so many of them married other Hurlburts, plus they share many of the same names. In one case I'm sorting through some lists showing an Isaac and Catherine Hurlburt and all of their kids, then there's a David and Caroline Hurlburt and their bazillion kids. Then the names Catherine and Caroline are swapped, like maybe they were used as nicknames for each other, causing me to wonder if these couples weren't maybe actually the same people?? Maybe he was David Isaac or Isaac David? I'm thinking now they're not, it seems that they were actually two separate families, though absolutely related. I haven't gotten around to actually deciphering how they're related, though no doubt they're all first cousins. </div>
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So many cousins marrying cousins, including my own grandparents, I'm just constantly amazed that I don't have 3 arms and a tail. Thank God for the occasional adventurous soul who, for work or whatever reason, left the village and went out of the family to find a spouse. The gene pool will be forever grateful for that bit of stirring up the pot. </div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-50570504134408982772015-09-30T11:27:00.001-07:002015-09-30T11:27:20.647-07:00Damn Yankees ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
It seems that every time one of my Grays has left Nova Scotia, it was to go to Massachusetts. So the question arises, Why Massachusetts? </div>
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Obviously just because Capt Jesse was an outlaw in the Carolinas doesn't mean the rest of the family was banned ... and if his origins of having come from there have been passed down as far as me, surely the rest of the family knew it as well along the way. So why not go down there and reunite with whoever was left behind? And what happened to Capt Jesse's brother Samuel? Did he marry? Where are his kids? Where did he die? And what the hell is so damn great about Massachusetts that we keep going back there?</div>
<br />Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-57157333022461213192015-09-19T22:51:00.005-07:002015-09-19T22:51:55.394-07:00Filling in the names and dates ....<div style="text-align: justify;">
I just realized I haven't posted anything since March! It's not that I haven't been digging, I just haven't really come across anything new that seemed post-worthy. Pretty much every evening before I go to bed I get out my laptop and log on to ancestry, go through some censuses or cemetery listings or something and fill in some names and dates in my tree. I link up whoever I can and fill in spouses' family names, which often leads me way off into the great beyond where I'm filling in the names and dates of people I'm scarcely even related to at all. </div>
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It's interesting, though, that quite often I get off on some random branch of an inlaw's family tree and discover that it links up again with other people in my own tree at other points. It makes sense that this would be ... in a small community with large families inevitably they're all intermarried with each other at some point over the years. </div>
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I was thinking the other day how when I was a kid and when people heard I was a Gray they'd ask if I was related to this Gray or that Gray and I'd always say no, we were the Grays from Plymouth, not those other Grays. After all the work I've done in the past few years I know now that more likely than not I was probably related to all of those other Grays. Not to mention the Goodwins, Hemeons, Eldridges, and numerous other family names that were in the pot. </div>
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This week I've been doing some research into the Moultons. Capt Jesse's wife Sarah was a Moulton, of Wells Moulton and Kezia Goodwin (there's those Goodwins again!). They were also called Morton in some parts over the years, which of course doesn't confuse things at all ...</div>
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There were a few Moulton families around in the area with Capt Jesse so I'm linking up the names, working on figuring out where they all came from and if they are from separate Moulton clans or if they all come from the same group at some point. </div>
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I'm also still focusing on unusual names, like with Watson. Though I didn't get very far with that theory ... yet. Some names were carried down from the spouse's family, which does help to figure out who belonged to whom sometimes. It's interesting how often a name is repeated in the same family ... like the EXACT same family. I mean like in a case like Rebecca Elizabeth Moulton and Joseph Nelson Kinney. They had a son, Charles, born 1862 who died in 1864. So then they had another son in 1865 and named him Charles, too. I guess they figured they liked the name and since it didn't "take" the first time, they'd give it another go. Seems odd now, I can't see people nowadays giving a child the same name of its deceased brother or sister, but I've seen it fairly often in the past.</div>
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Anyhow, I'll try not to be so neglectful of my postings like I have been lately. The search continues ...</div>
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<br />Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-72462329695608237752015-03-15T21:35:00.002-07:002015-07-21T14:59:04.487-07:00Not so elementary, my dear Watson ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
Names. Over the years, some names have become more and then less popular, depending on things like trends, media, creativity ... and some have maintained a steady level, usually due to simple tradition. Some names are repeated over the generations to keep them in the family, or to honour or commemorate those who have passed. Sometimes the maiden name of the mother or grandmother was used as the first name of a child. I knew a woman who had twins and named one of them after her husband, the other after the man who actually fathered the children ... </div>
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Nowadays it seems people are sometimes just making up names off the top of their heads, to invoke some kind of individuality for their child. Names like Edith, Archibald, Maud, or even my own Deborah aren't used as often now as they once were. </div>
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In the not so distant past though, traditional names handed down from generation to generation were very important. Often in a line of grandchildren you would see several cousins with the same name, after their grandfather or grandmother. I'm sure this would have made for a very confusing family reunion with all these cousins called Robert or Sarah.</div>
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Which brings me to Henry and Watson. Capt Jesse's eldest son was James. Nothing spectacular there, James has always been a very popular and traditional name all the way through history and even today. Likely he had a brother or uncle or even his father named James ... not much to go on. James named his first son Henry. Also a popular name, although less so than James in some parts. Capt Jesse had no sons named Henry. James' wife's father and grandfather were not named Henry. She did have an uncle Henry but he died in infancy.</div>
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Capt Jesse's second son, Jesse jr, named one of his sons Watson. Now that's an unusual name. One does not just come up with a name like that out of the clear blue sky ... not in the 1800's anyhow. Watson was not commonly used as a first name, but it was a surname in some parts. </div>
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So, this is where I'm looking now ... Henry and Watson had to have come from somewhere ... either his father, grandfather, uncles, brothers, or his mother .... Yes, that's casting a hugely wide net, but when you factor in the relevant dates and geographical possibilities and likelihoods it narrows up just a little bit. Hopefully just enough to help me figure out a bit more of the puzzle that is Capt Jesse.</div>
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<br />Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-60000463224055007772015-02-06T23:04:00.000-08:002015-03-03T12:09:40.141-08:00Taking the time to get it RIGHT ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
One of the main stumbling blocks I've come across on my journey to find Capt Jesse is actually, believe it or not, other people trying to do the exact same thing. When I do a search in Ancestry for information I try to stay away from other people's public trees. I know they are on their own quest to find out where they came from, and they very well may be on the same route I'm on, but that doesn't necessarily mean we're after the same thing ... if that makes any sense at all.</div>
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Yes, it's good to share .... yes, it's good to link up names that go together, and often other people's trees are the only way to do that. BUT ... and this is a big BUT ... some of them are just WRONG. There is a guy in particular that I've gradually come to accept that I should never accept his family tree as being valid information. He tends to find hints, take them as gospel, fill in his tree without further research, then moves on to the next one. Then all of these newbies come along and think that since he has so much done on his tree, he must be right. They copy his tree info into theirs, now we've got 2 invalid trees, and from there it grows exponentially. I've sent him a number of emails asking for sources for some of the things he has posted ... of course I never get a reply. </div>
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I do end up checking his tree every now and then as comparison to mine, take it all with a grain of salt, then go looking for verification sources to back it up.</div>
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With all the work I've put into this search: reading wills, obituaries, birth-marriage-death certificates, letters, cemetery inscriptions, anything I can get my hands on, I try my hardest to be able to list sources for my finds. Not always, but as often as I can. My ultimate goal, of course, is to figure out Capt Jesse. Until then I try to keep my records as accurate as possible, in regards to spelling, dates, places, etc, with sources for as much as I can possibly manage.</div>
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Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-84357055468212895392015-01-31T00:33:00.002-08:002015-01-31T00:33:32.036-08:00Backtracking for another look ....<div style="text-align: justify;">
A few times now I have gone back to the family tree of Henry Gray & Sarah Hardin/Harding. It has been suggested, even recorded as truth by several people also doing genealogy research on this family, that Capt Jesse is their son. That I do not believe ... mainly because the dates don't match up. Their son Jesse was born in 1738. My Capt Jesse was born closer to 1760. But that doesn't mean he's not in the next generation. Henry's brother, Richard, was the father of James Samuel Gray, who married Mary Mangum, cousin to Sarah and Mary Mangum that married two of Capt Jesse's sons. There isn't a lot of information readily available on the rest of Henry Gray's family, the descendants of his brothers. </div>
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Looking at Capt Jesse's own family, his first son is James. James married one of the Mangum girls, and his first two sons are Henry and William. He has another son named James F Gray ... I don't know what the F was for, but I think I should find out. </div>
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I think for now I'll focus on that ... try to find more information on them all and see where it leads me.......</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-33389236248420151652014-12-18T00:32:00.000-08:002014-12-18T00:32:13.466-08:00Spelling and Math .... <div style="text-align: justify;">
One of the resources I rely on often in my research is the Census. It is in a way both very reliable and yet very unreliable at the same time. It does tell us who was living in the house at that time, usually indicating with some degree of accuracy what their relation was to the head of the household. Ages are often wrong. I expect it's because the person giving the information didn't know the actual birthdate of each person and just gave their best guess. Like "oh .... I'd say about 9" ... not remembering that 10 years ago at the previous census the child had been recorded as being 2. </div>
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Some census years are better than others in the areas I've been focusing on, and I imagine it's the same everywhere else. The census taker probably didn't lay eyes on everyone he was listing, so he may not have noticed that someone was older or younger than recorded, or if it should be listed as Male or Female. Some often put down the nickname of a person rather than their actual formal name. So little "Gussie" listed as being a 9 year old boy may have actually been Augusta, an 11 year old girl.
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I can't be too hard on them though, seeing as many had little to no actual schooling and were doing the best that they could with what they had. I guess I should be grateful that I haven't come across a census with "One-eyed Willie" listed in it.
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Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-75168727523232864892014-10-26T14:20:00.003-07:002014-11-01T15:26:04.817-07:00Following the slaves ....<div style="text-align: justify;">
Lately I've been reading a couple of really good books: <i>The Book of Negroes</i> by Lawrence Hill, and <i>Black Loyalists</i> by Ruth Holmes Whitehead. Both excellent books, full of information, some of which I had never heard of before. As usual, every time I read anything I'm constantly on the lookout to any reference to the Grays or other names I've seen associated with them along the way.</div>
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<i>Nero Denton, 40, stout fellow, (Cornet Gray, B. Legion). Formerly the property
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<i>Dalkeith, 25, stout fellow, (Cornet Gray, B. Legion). Formerly the property
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In Ruth Holmes Whitehead's book, <i>Black Loyalists</i>, she makes reference to a letter from John Cruden, commissioner of sequestered estates, to the local magistrate, George Nibbs in 1783 advising that a Mr. Gray was transporting Negroes from Carolina under the pretense of setting them free but then selling them in the British West Indies. A few weeks later Cruden wrote to the Honorable J. Fahia, Esq, president of the council at Tortola, about the same thing. Cruden believed this Mr. Gray to be either Capt Jesse or his brother Samuel. </div>
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In Ruth Holmes Whitehead's book she speaks about Boston King, a former South Carolina slave. King had been the property of Richard Waring of Charlestown, SC, he <span class="null">later worked as an orderly to a militia Capt Grey/Gray in SC</span>. We know that Mary Postell had also been the property of a family by the name of Waring in Charlestown.</div>
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Upon doing a bit of online poking around I was reading through some ads posted for runaway slaves in the newspaper in South Carolina in 1783-85. You can see them <a href="http://testaae.greenwood.com/doc_print.aspx?fileID=WRS03&chapterID=WRS03-9927&path=books%2Fgreenwood" target="_blank">here</a>. On Sept 2-6, 1783 and Jan 3-6, 1784 a Henry Gray was looking for 4 runaway slaves. The part that set off my alarm bells was that they had been purchased from Postell and Waring .... BOTH names associated with Capt Jesse, Samuel, and Mary Postell.</div>
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So ... factual information, I have none. Well, it's all factual and it's all information, but it doesn't all necessarily belong to me. It is thought provoking though. A bit too coincidental for my liking ... I am definitely going to have to do some more investigating into these areas. </div>
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<br />Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-82226352011521624962014-10-06T00:19:00.001-07:002014-10-06T00:19:35.029-07:00Working the numbers ....<div style="text-align: justify;">
That's what it all comes down to ... the numbers. If the dates don't line up within reason, then certain names and associations go right out the window. This is one of the 3 main reasons I have discarded the many Jesse Grays I've come across until now, the dates just don't work. The next reason is locations. Based on the bits of information I do know about Capt Jesse since the American Revolution, I can reason out certain places that just don't make any sense. This goes along with the 3rd reason, which is common names. First names were handed down through the generations, naming children after parents, grand-parents, uncles, etc. Often a child would be given the mother's maiden name as a first name. They also married locally, so often we have brothers marrying sisters or cousins, with common surnames popping up all over the place within that particular section of the tree.</div>
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Using these 3 main processes of deductive reasoning I've eliminated pretty much every Jesse Gray I've come across. Every now and then I get an email from my dad asking if I'd checked out a name he'd gotten from Uncle Gary (his brother). So far every one I've been able to definitively tell him they're not the one we're looking for.</div>
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But every now and then I get a family line that looks too good to NOT be ours. There's a Fielding Gray who was born in 1799 in VA, died 1850 in TN. On the face of that it doesn't look like anything. Just another Gray. His middle name is Wells. Interesting ... Capt Jesse's father-in-law's name is Wells. Still, not much to go on. Fielding's father is usually listed as James Gray. Again, no big deal, there are lots of James Grays out there. Then I discovered his name is actually James Samuel Gray and he married Mary Mangum, of the same Mangums that my Capt Jesse and Samuel had dealings with in the Mary Postell trial and more. Capt Jesse has 2 sons that married Mangums.</div>
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Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-87332412710866170822014-09-29T13:24:00.003-07:002014-09-29T13:24:37.556-07:00Haven't given up, just been busy ...<div style="text-align: justify;">
Just realized now that I haven't posted anything since the end of July so I figured I'd best do something about that. I'm still digging, though I haven't found anything of any great significance in a little while. Still reading everything I can get my hands on that even mention a Gray in eastern and southern states and in Nova Scotia. Mainly I've been doing a lot of filling in names and dates of distant relatives, like 3rd cousins twice removed and stuff like that. I still keep finding a lot of repetition in names that are familiar throughout the parts I already do know about ... so it's good to be reassured even when I'm off on a distant trail that I'm still on the right track.</div>
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I've seen some intermingling with families named Crocker, Cann, Robbins, and more. In the case of Capt Jesse vs Mary Postell there was a similar dispute between a Joseph Robbins and two of his slaves. Robbins had also been in St Augustine at the same time as Capt Jesse, he moved to Nova Scotia around the same time, and also lived in Kemptville. They were both friends with the Andrews, Fannings, and Mangums, and had several dealings with each other, and there are some Robbins in my tree (haha!) that lead back to Joseph. </div>
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It's so weird finding out that I'm related to these names that I've heard my entire life and had no idea. Of course, they didn't either, it's all pretty much lost history. </div>
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Anyhow, back to the digging I go ... hopefully I'll match up some more names that will lead somewhere other than down the rabbit hole again.</div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-13811333929285995292014-07-31T23:05:00.001-07:002014-07-31T23:05:28.875-07:00Getting cross-eyed!!!<div style="text-align: justify;">
Today for some reason I was drawn to the Hurlburt section of the tree. I've known for a while that it's a mess ... thought maybe this was a good time to try to sort it all out. When I look at the tree on ancestry as Family View, as opposed to Pedigree View all I can say is Oh. My. God!!! So many lines criss-crossing this way and that from cousins marrying back and forth over and over and over!!! Confusion reigns with lack of dates of birth or death ... then we have a bunch of brothers who decide to name some of their kids the SAME NAME. Over and over again! Come on people -- someone should have dragged them by the ear to the next village to meet some other girls and introduce some original names to the family. Once again I am ever-so-grateful and amazed that we who have descended from these people don't have tails and a 3rd arm.</div>
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Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-50505982136105494512014-07-27T11:04:00.003-07:002017-11-28T13:32:00.136-08:00The will of Wells Morton<div style="text-align: justify;">
I often wonder how many other people are finding huge road blocks in their family history, as Capt Jesse is for me, as well as his wife's family. Sarah Moulton/Morton's father was Wells Morton jr, his father was Wells Morton sr. I <i>think</i> his father was Robert Morton, based on various things I've read about the Morton family. Then BABOOM! another dead end. People are always saying about how cool it would be to have a time machine and go back to visit great historic happenings, or change things they wish they could change .... I'd probably spend all my time just snooping on my family and taking notes on who belongs to whom.</div>
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I have now transcribed the will of Wells Morton jr. Unlike Capt Jesse, Wells did leave instructions on the care of his wife, so obviously he died before she did. This contradicts the information I had so I'll have to do some more research to get that sorted out. He also states that at the time he wrote the will he had 1 son and 8 daughters. I have the son, Joshua, and 6 daughters ... and NO IDEA who the other 2 daughters are. I know they often referred to daughters- or sons- in-law as daughter and son, but this doesn't seem to be the case. </div>
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As in Capt Jesse's will, there are some spots that I couldn't tell what a word was and have put ??. If anyone figures these words out or notices that I've misinterpreted something please let me know asap! I will post a picture of the actual will on the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Searching-for-Jesse/1457780517773163?ref_type=bookmark" target="_blank">Searching for Jesse facebook page</a>. There are also a couple of separate pages of this will written by Benoni d'Entremont (first French Acadian Magistrate of NS and Justice of the Peace) but they are virtually un-readable. I'll keep at it and see what I can figure out. In the meantime, here's Wells Morton's will:<br />
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Wells Morton of Argyle in the County of Shelburne & Province of Nova
Scotia, Farmer, being very sick & weak of Body, but of perfect Mind and
Memory thanks be to God for it.</span></i></b></div>
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recommend my soul unto the hand of Almighty God that gave it & my Body to
the Earth to be buried in a decent Christian Burial at the discretion of my
Executor, nothing doubting but at the general resurrection, I shall receive the
same again by the mighty Power of God.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>And as touching such worldly Estate wherewith it has pleased God to
bless me in this life, I give, demise & dispose of the same in the following
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">First I give and bequeath to
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on the Southern end of the neck which is to be reserved for my daughter Kezia and
the said Joshua shall take my beloved Wife Kezia in care & charge during
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household furniture and movables of all sorts shall be equally divided
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testament, all & singular my lands ?? and ?? by his freely to be possessed
& enjoyed.</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">And I do hereby utterly
disallow, evoke & disannul all & every other former testaments, wills,
legacies, bequests & executors, by me in anywise before named, willed &
bequeathed, ? & confirming this & no other to be my last Will &
Testament.</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">The above said ? legacies
of sums of money I will and order shall be paid to the said respective legatees,
within twelve months after my decease.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">In witness whereof I have
hereunto set my hand & seal this twentieth day of May in the year of our
Lord Eighteen hundred & Eleven & in the fiftieth year of his Majestys
Reign.</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">Signed, Sealed, published,
Pronounced & declared by the said Wells Morton as his last will and
Testament in his presence & in the presence of each other- have hereto
inscribed our names</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">Wells Morton</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">William W Mathews</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">William Goodwin</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">Samuel Hamilton</span></i></b></div>
Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-32012782083973707722014-07-19T12:17:00.003-07:002016-10-17T15:10:29.481-07:00Wills!!!!!<span style="font-family: inherit;">Yesterday I got mail from the Nova Scotia Archives containing the wills of Capt Jesse Gray and Wells Morton!!! I had emailed them a week or so ago to see if there was any chance the wills were still around, accessible and if I could get a copy. They were very obliging and said they'd send it out to me right away. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;">I haven't had a chance to get them scanned yet to share, but I have transcribed Capt Jesse's just this morning. The writing is, of course, challenging to read, some words are spelled unusually, but for the most part it's pretty understandable. It does clear up a few things. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="color: #d9ead3;"><b><span class="commentdetail"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "serif";">Jesse
Gray senior's last will & testament. In the name of God Amen, I Jesse Gray
Senior of Kemptville in the county of Yarmouth and province of Nova Scotia,
farmer, being weak in body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be unto God
but calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed
unto all men once to die do make and ordain this my last will and testament
that is to say principally and first of all I give and recommend my soul into
the hands of Almighty God who gave it and my body I recommend to the earth to
be buried in a decent and Christian-like manner at the discretion of my
executor and as touching rich worldly estate wherewith it has pleased God to
bless me in this life I give remit and dispose of the same in the following
manner and from 1st recommend that previously and before every thing all my
just debts be fully paid and all the wrong or damage I may have done to any one
be fully satisfied and paid. 2nd I give and bequeath all my real estate to my
children in the manner following: 3rd to my well beloved sons Ebenezer and
Nelson Gray I freely give and bequeath my homestead farm containing two hundred
acres of land with all improvements stock and farming utensils to be equally
divided between them which they have promised by bond to allow and give me a
comfortable maintenance in every thing requisite during my natural life. <u>To my
grandson Collin Gray my daughter Rebecca's son </u>I give and bequeath fifty acres
of land for services performed to me. 4th I give and bequeath the remaining
seven hundred acres of land to be equally divided amongst all, the girls to
draw an equal part with the boys there being fourteen in number which will
entitle them to fifty acres each. Lastly I make constitute and ordain my trusty
and beloved friends Nathaniel Churchill & John Roberts sole executor of
this my last will and testament to whom I give power to execute all the
articles of it according to their purport and I hereby utterly disallow revoke
and disannul all and every other former testaments will legacies bequests and
executor ratifying and confirming this and no other to be my last will and
testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twelf =
12th day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty
one. Signed and published and declared by the said Jesse Gray senr as his last
will and testament in his presence at his request and in presence of each other
who have hereunto subscribed their names as witness Jesse Gray ? James ?
Pennington Josiah Harding John Harding - Registered the twenty second day of
June 1844 on the oath of John Harding there being no interlineations in the
original will.</span></i></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">It had been previously unclear as to who exactly Collin Gray was. We had speculated that he was probably a grandson, but nobody knew through whom. It is obvious by this will that he was Rebecca's son, apparently illegitimate. I had heard that one (or more) of Capt Jesse's daughters had at least one illegitimate child, so here's one of them. Exactly when his wife, Sarah, died has also been unclear. From what I've been able to figure, she died shortly after the birth of their youngest son, Nelson (b.1815) , around 1817. He made no provision for her in his will, so obviously she did die before he did. He does say that his children number 14, so at least that's not a curveball, all are accounted for. The only ones he mentions by name are Ebenezer, Nelson, and Rebecca ... I assume this is because they're the youngest boys and likely still living at home, and she's got Collin and was as yet unmarried.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">He also lists a few people as his trusted friends and then his executors. These include Nathaniel Churchill, John Roberts, James Pennington, Josiah Harding, and John Harding. There are some Churchills, Roberts, and Hardings in our tree ... I'm thinking maybe I'll take some time to focus on them for a bit and see what I can come up with, maybe find some other connections.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I'll transcribe Wells Morton's will next, probably within the next week.</span></div>
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Deborahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569300304612683966noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7166000523925303139.post-13922073623918633892014-05-03T14:08:00.001-07:002014-05-03T14:08:13.377-07:00more dead-ish ends<div style="text-align: justify;">
It's been a little while since I last posted ... mainly because I haven't had many very productive searches lately. Same old story ... dig, dig, dig, ooohhhh, splat. I haven't given up, just making sure I thoroughly research every branch of every tree as much as can be found so I don't end up on a wild goose chase.</div>
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Up until not so long ago people were still having huge families with as many as 12 children or more. Granted, not all of them survived to adulthood, but many did. Then they had a bazillion kids, who then had their own bazillion kids, etc etc etc. I expect that's where I'll find Capt Jesse ... hidden among the branches of some obscurely convoluted family tree. </div>
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I haven't found much more on Robert Gray, and I've read almost all I can find on the Grays of the Carolinas. The fact that I haven't found him is evidence that I obviously haven't read EVERYTHING, so until I do I'll keep on digging.</div>
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